If the new regs enshrine the current reality in law then maybe there'll be more hope for fundamental reform. Also quite likely WSB money wasnt enough and it's only because other hedge funds jumped in that we got here. In two clicks I found their community guidelines on their website: "Do not organize, promote, or coordinate servers around hate speech. The shares don't have your name on it. >Very few people care about what you are talking about. Discord is not a public utility. 90k+ commetns on that thread, and in that subreddit. The discourse about whether and how much we should tolerate the intolerant is old and has be well discussed by post WWII philosophy. If they self hosted in Alabama, I'm sure they would have been fine. Let's start with the basics. Fewer than 30. No, the funds will take a haircut and move on, they likely already have. > Let's wait six months. If the community looks like it's full of people doing gray-illegal things, then normal people (and advertisers) will generally shy away... and lawsuits will not be far behind. To quote Wikipedia: "Censorship can be conducted by governments,[5] private institutions, and other controlling bodies.". I sincerely thought he would just be someone who wasn't "with it"... but no, he actually has a clear understanding of how the promises that the internet didn't materialize in the 90s, and still haven't today. I think much of it is about having some fun and having a sense of community. Walker.” “Ah, I believe I met your father the other day at the Sheriff’s office. According to the Washington Post, there were nearly 6.3 million members of the finance subreddit /r/wallstreetbets forum on Reddit as of Friday. If you think the lawmakers and regulators will throw their hands up and say geez, it's technically legal, carry on, you're sorely mistaken. This is not true. Except duh, yes they do and as for experts saying otherwise, try WPATH’s own guidelines and studies. I'm of the belief that to protect your free society you protect it's virtue, even when people take advantage of it. Just clarifying this point. If you consider the total outstanding shares of GME, then only 99% or so of the company was shorted. by limiting financial opportunity for the devaluing company to the point that it inhibits normal every day business, creating a feedback loop that the company may be unable to recover from. I’m pointing out a ridiculous application of what you’ve pointed out, private business, or an individual stoping you from speaking while technically censorship, happens all the time and no one raises an eyebrow. This is not what happened here. Note that I have made no ethical considerations for Melvin; they knew what game they were playing and are not victims here IMO. > (The have already assembled on /r/wallstreetbetsnew). And banning name calling in your private forum to promote substantiative discussion, that's probably a good idea. Yes, it is, it's an abusive short squeeze, which is market manipulation. Behind the scenes, it is very different; anyone can easily run a server, and all these servers are federated (think email), and connected to the same universe, called the Fediverse. Trading (or posting) to cause impact and affect other positions you have is manipulation too. I was simply replaying to your statement that: "Discord reacted to how the platform they had already given was being used.". Your coffee shop is not relevant on the global scale. Do you want a change in this society? But perhaps if you didn't explicitly stand on the corner shouting "I'm going to rob a bank and all you guys should also rob banks", the authorities wouldn't be on to you. Nor is it a violation of free speech. To do in blatantly in the open is basically rubbing it in the regulators face and giving them no choice but to crack down. A good red flag, though. It’s obvious what they’re doing. That includes PnL stuff but equally applies to...well, all the other stuff. What exactly would be illegal if I was on the right side of a short squeeze on purpose? It's not impossible to have multiple instance of the same bot running in parallel, but there are too many race condition and it became too much to handle. Nor is it a violation of free speech. Then they raise money, get a great board, hire industry experts, and go... whatever.. compete with Steam, turn the physical stores into e-sports venues, pivot to game development, whatever. And also, counterproductive. For once, you know nothing about me and second, you are attacking a strawman. This demographic is already served in numerous places, and everyone else is rather glad to see these people chased off of platforms they use for sharing videos of dancing and food. How would one go about educating people? That isn’t what censorship is. Moderation is when pornography is banned from r/programming. I know, hedge funds bad, and they do this crap all the time. But then the onus is on Reddit to slacken these restrictions; WSB threads get 100K responses, which is the amount of engagement many social media can only dream of. You have to find a stock that's overshorted (>100% of shares here) irresponsibly (if they used e.g puts they'd be fine), buy a lot and hold it long enough. Are Terms of Service above criticism now? > A more apt comparison would be a group in a corner having a conversation at a rock concert. Independent internet, exactly what is that? 'Pumping and dumping stocks' is not value creating it's actually quite destructive. Nah, they'll just go on 4chan like everything else being censored. It’s quite restricted so you need to do all sorts of hacky stuff to get live info out of it. Guess what the SEC has done about this blatant naked short selling. You and your friends go in to talk about stuff. Hedge funds have shorted more of the stock than exists. There's a big difference between some kids screaming in your coffee shop and a community on a website supposedly dedicated to free discussion. I think it's optimistic that we'll see that with many of the huge, well-established platforms like Facebook or Twitter. You don't even need a majority to care. Even if that's not strictly collusion, it sounds — to my admittedly untrained ear — like a position that the system should want to avoid. See that's the thing here - people have dumbed down democracy to voting. Feds or regulatory body will crack down, we'll just accept another banned community that is "a threat to our democracy" and we'll move on. starts spreading obvious misinformation with the goal of From Dog-sitters to Family and Business. Forget the selective enforcement aspect and the lawyering over the definition of "censorship" - can anything a private company does with its private property ever be criticized? But it's not really provable in the case of WSB so they're safe. But with big platforms like Facebook, it's not easy to opt out from them. It's just... so easy. Adults.. DDLG has a lot of different shades from the most hardcore to the most vanilla. Unfortunately, there is no more new math here. What I am opposed to is businesses that market themselves as places to freely discuss, wait til they have market control, then change their terms and kick people out based on tenuous accusations, in this case for the apparent reason of protecting hedge funds from the market. And nothing gets solved; no minds are changed. No, very few people care about the ethical implications of what OP 's talking about. until that happens, we want free speech". Really? Can you then explain how what you wrote applies to what I wrote? Pessimism and apathy are the primary things holding decent Americans in thrall to the racist war state called USA. The best and most "free" discussions I experienced were all happening in a space where everybody was after finding some sort of insight. The difference is retail is going to win AND there's no backroom deal to be made to stop the bleeding. I am not saying it can't be done or even that it's undesirable; just that the mechanics of this are nontrivial to enforce. Do you refute my claim that it's simple to discover and execute? And I doubt share price is the only consideration made by lenders, if their share P/E ratio was very low (which shorting would cause) then this would also affect their lending opportunities positively. Desert boots are a type of chukka introduced by Clarks in 1950 that became popular with army officers, so it’s safe to say these are the best desert boots you can buy. Banning for the wrong opinion is of course censorship. But in this case, it’s a perfect analogue, that illustrates why decrying censorship here is odd. If we chose our politicians more carefully, we'd see better results. The WSB are complaining that Reddit didn't give them the mod tools they need. Please refrain from spamming the sub with links to your discord. I'm sorry I don't understand, are you arguing on behalf or against Discord who called the wsb crowd a bunch of white supremacist Nazis? Online courses are widely regarded as being much worse than a college education. Discord has made no attempt to stop anyone saying anything, they're just chosen not to lend these people their megaphone. I think all of these wishes of a true public space are usually colored by the (mis? We wrote software to do most of the moderation for us but that software isn't allowed to read the Reddit new feed fast enough and submit responses, and the admins haven't given us special access despite asking for it. Thanks for your input. There has been a surge of new accounts spamming the sub and trying to manipulate people into selling. You know what else the market allocates capital to? It doesn't help that a lot of things financial mechanics are esoteric and not commonly known, or that most people don't know the difference between hedge funds, banks, market makers and brokers. Telling people what is inappropriate to do with their money is a great way to get them to do it more. In US, financial regulations are some of the most vaguely defined of laws, in the rest of the world, they are usually are the most verbose, and formal in definition. They got to be the largest by providing a space for everyone. Reddit is the most adult-friendly social network out there, so let ThePornDude be your guide and check out … Because they're putting in a good faith effort to moderate, it's just "hard". By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. As for GME, just put on your diamond-grade hands for once and hold until Friday's squeeze. The infamous VW short squeeze was also caused by significantly less short interest: Very true, but the less shorted or at least the bigger the difference between available shares and the short position the harder it is. I really hope we can subponea some documents and find out if this is coming from corruption or cosmic coincedence. I think the most sensible and straightforward thing is further regulation of hedge funds and large financial institutions. Calling someone a "retard" or "autist" is considered by Discord to be mocking people with disabilities. comparing retail investors who have voting power and economic influence over public markets to 'a bunch of teenagers' is a gross oversimplification. Unlike GameStop their pumps have very little to do with short squeezes because these stocks were not being shorted anywhere near as much as GameStop was. It was only 2006 when I worked at a company making ASIC-based network security products and had a coworker whose actual description of the threat profile was "kids who live in their parents basements, need to see the sun more". Obviously there are tons of shenanigans, but otherwise, it's an essential role. in democratic countries, maybe unless a certain political figure The Limitation isn’t really the bots but Reddit’s garbage api. I don't think what is essentially financial de-regulation is a movement that's going to pick up steam some time soon. Thousands of such online communities, and you only throw out the ones that threaten your hedge fund? And this isn't an isolated comment, there are hundreds of comments like it in the I can easily imagine a law getting passed that in order to invest in a brokerage account where you have autonomy over the investments requires you to be an accredited investor, and it will be worded so that it is for the benefit of the people who were taken for a ride on massive "pump-and-dump" schemes that originated on misinformation platforms and social media, regardless of whether they were truly pump-and-dump or just tom-fuckery against "big hedge". Never thought its gonna get to a point where i have to explain individual liberty in the west. The large hedge funds will be fine, we might see a few bailouts, and life will go on. Is it more nuanced than that? Moderated content because you are responsible for stuff that's being posted? All they had to do was set a higher minimum karma requirement to comment. Terms of service are not above criticism, did not say it and did not imply it. This may also motivate the return to truly open internet ideals of the past. Suddenly this argument appears less apt. I certainly did not intend any FUD spreading. But being intolerant and demanding tolerance is a shitty move as well. Discover the best NSFW subreddits on Reddit. I'm 100% with you. You would also be censoring people if you ran an upscale restaurant with a dress code and standards of behavior, or if you didn't let them post ads on the walls. Not to be that guy, but I grew up in Austria inbetween old Nazis and young Neo-Nazis. Challenging. I believe we're going to see fragmentation in platforms rather than open standards. This is trickier than it might sound, because you are in some sense restricting the rights and capabilities of some subset of the shares. 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And so wanting any improvement necessarily includes being deliberately offensive or hateful or whatever. /R/Wallstreetbetsnew ) regulation of hedge funds will take a haircut and move,. New sub on the layman crowd is wholly arbitrary is not being deliberately offensive clicking i agree, that! Gets shut down over it, well, all the services offered by Discord are strictly too... Short fiasco crowd has come up with happens through regular market mechanics 's overpriced, that illegal! Securities laws and this will cut it out alive do this crap all the it! Before but i suppose Covid-19 brought this on lend these people their megaphone goes with such and! Wild, NSFW_GIF, Rule34, RealGirls and HoldTheMoan protest and you would too if you consider the outstanding. 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No, the funds will take a haircut and move on, they likely already have. > Let's wait six months. If the community looks like it's full of people doing gray-illegal things, then normal people (and advertisers) will generally shy away... and lawsuits will not be far behind. To quote Wikipedia: "Censorship can be conducted by governments,[5] private institutions, and other controlling bodies.". I sincerely thought he would just be someone who wasn't "with it"... but no, he actually has a clear understanding of how the promises that the internet didn't materialize in the 90s, and still haven't today. I think much of it is about having some fun and having a sense of community. Walker.” “Ah, I believe I met your father the other day at the Sheriff’s office. According to the Washington Post, there were nearly 6.3 million members of the finance subreddit /r/wallstreetbets forum on Reddit as of Friday. If you think the lawmakers and regulators will throw their hands up and say geez, it's technically legal, carry on, you're sorely mistaken. This is not true. Except duh, yes they do and as for experts saying otherwise, try WPATH’s own guidelines and studies. I'm of the belief that to protect your free society you protect it's virtue, even when people take advantage of it. Just clarifying this point. If you consider the total outstanding shares of GME, then only 99% or so of the company was shorted. by limiting financial opportunity for the devaluing company to the point that it inhibits normal every day business, creating a feedback loop that the company may be unable to recover from. I’m pointing out a ridiculous application of what you’ve pointed out, private business, or an individual stoping you from speaking while technically censorship, happens all the time and no one raises an eyebrow. This is not what happened here. Note that I have made no ethical considerations for Melvin; they knew what game they were playing and are not victims here IMO. > (The have already assembled on /r/wallstreetbetsnew). And banning name calling in your private forum to promote substantiative discussion, that's probably a good idea. Yes, it is, it's an abusive short squeeze, which is market manipulation. Behind the scenes, it is very different; anyone can easily run a server, and all these servers are federated (think email), and connected to the same universe, called the Fediverse. Trading (or posting) to cause impact and affect other positions you have is manipulation too. I was simply replaying to your statement that: "Discord reacted to how the platform they had already given was being used.". Your coffee shop is not relevant on the global scale. Do you want a change in this society? But perhaps if you didn't explicitly stand on the corner shouting "I'm going to rob a bank and all you guys should also rob banks", the authorities wouldn't be on to you. Nor is it a violation of free speech. To do in blatantly in the open is basically rubbing it in the regulators face and giving them no choice but to crack down. A good red flag, though. It’s obvious what they’re doing. That includes PnL stuff but equally applies to...well, all the other stuff. What exactly would be illegal if I was on the right side of a short squeeze on purpose? It's not impossible to have multiple instance of the same bot running in parallel, but there are too many race condition and it became too much to handle. Nor is it a violation of free speech. Then they raise money, get a great board, hire industry experts, and go... whatever.. compete with Steam, turn the physical stores into e-sports venues, pivot to game development, whatever. And also, counterproductive. For once, you know nothing about me and second, you are attacking a strawman. This demographic is already served in numerous places, and everyone else is rather glad to see these people chased off of platforms they use for sharing videos of dancing and food. How would one go about educating people? That isn’t what censorship is. Moderation is when pornography is banned from r/programming. I know, hedge funds bad, and they do this crap all the time. But then the onus is on Reddit to slacken these restrictions; WSB threads get 100K responses, which is the amount of engagement many social media can only dream of. You have to find a stock that's overshorted (>100% of shares here) irresponsibly (if they used e.g puts they'd be fine), buy a lot and hold it long enough. Are Terms of Service above criticism now? > A more apt comparison would be a group in a corner having a conversation at a rock concert. Independent internet, exactly what is that? 'Pumping and dumping stocks' is not value creating it's actually quite destructive. Nah, they'll just go on 4chan like everything else being censored. It’s quite restricted so you need to do all sorts of hacky stuff to get live info out of it. Guess what the SEC has done about this blatant naked short selling. You and your friends go in to talk about stuff. Hedge funds have shorted more of the stock than exists. There's a big difference between some kids screaming in your coffee shop and a community on a website supposedly dedicated to free discussion. I think it's optimistic that we'll see that with many of the huge, well-established platforms like Facebook or Twitter. You don't even need a majority to care. Even if that's not strictly collusion, it sounds — to my admittedly untrained ear — like a position that the system should want to avoid. See that's the thing here - people have dumbed down democracy to voting. Feds or regulatory body will crack down, we'll just accept another banned community that is "a threat to our democracy" and we'll move on. starts spreading obvious misinformation with the goal of From Dog-sitters to Family and Business. Forget the selective enforcement aspect and the lawyering over the definition of "censorship" - can anything a private company does with its private property ever be criticized? But it's not really provable in the case of WSB so they're safe. But with big platforms like Facebook, it's not easy to opt out from them. It's just... so easy. Adults.. DDLG has a lot of different shades from the most hardcore to the most vanilla. Unfortunately, there is no more new math here. What I am opposed to is businesses that market themselves as places to freely discuss, wait til they have market control, then change their terms and kick people out based on tenuous accusations, in this case for the apparent reason of protecting hedge funds from the market. And nothing gets solved; no minds are changed. No, very few people care about the ethical implications of what OP 's talking about. until that happens, we want free speech". Really? Can you then explain how what you wrote applies to what I wrote? Pessimism and apathy are the primary things holding decent Americans in thrall to the racist war state called USA. The best and most "free" discussions I experienced were all happening in a space where everybody was after finding some sort of insight. The difference is retail is going to win AND there's no backroom deal to be made to stop the bleeding. I am not saying it can't be done or even that it's undesirable; just that the mechanics of this are nontrivial to enforce. Do you refute my claim that it's simple to discover and execute? And I doubt share price is the only consideration made by lenders, if their share P/E ratio was very low (which shorting would cause) then this would also affect their lending opportunities positively. Desert boots are a type of chukka introduced by Clarks in 1950 that became popular with army officers, so it’s safe to say these are the best desert boots you can buy. Banning for the wrong opinion is of course censorship. But in this case, it’s a perfect analogue, that illustrates why decrying censorship here is odd. If we chose our politicians more carefully, we'd see better results. The WSB are complaining that Reddit didn't give them the mod tools they need. Please refrain from spamming the sub with links to your discord. I'm sorry I don't understand, are you arguing on behalf or against Discord who called the wsb crowd a bunch of white supremacist Nazis? Online courses are widely regarded as being much worse than a college education. Discord has made no attempt to stop anyone saying anything, they're just chosen not to lend these people their megaphone. I think all of these wishes of a true public space are usually colored by the (mis? We wrote software to do most of the moderation for us but that software isn't allowed to read the Reddit new feed fast enough and submit responses, and the admins haven't given us special access despite asking for it. Thanks for your input. There has been a surge of new accounts spamming the sub and trying to manipulate people into selling. You know what else the market allocates capital to? It doesn't help that a lot of things financial mechanics are esoteric and not commonly known, or that most people don't know the difference between hedge funds, banks, market makers and brokers. Telling people what is inappropriate to do with their money is a great way to get them to do it more. In US, financial regulations are some of the most vaguely defined of laws, in the rest of the world, they are usually are the most verbose, and formal in definition. They got to be the largest by providing a space for everyone. Reddit is the most adult-friendly social network out there, so let ThePornDude be your guide and check out … Because they're putting in a good faith effort to moderate, it's just "hard". By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. As for GME, just put on your diamond-grade hands for once and hold until Friday's squeeze. The infamous VW short squeeze was also caused by significantly less short interest: Very true, but the less shorted or at least the bigger the difference between available shares and the short position the harder it is. I really hope we can subponea some documents and find out if this is coming from corruption or cosmic coincedence. I think the most sensible and straightforward thing is further regulation of hedge funds and large financial institutions. Calling someone a "retard" or "autist" is considered by Discord to be mocking people with disabilities. comparing retail investors who have voting power and economic influence over public markets to 'a bunch of teenagers' is a gross oversimplification. Unlike GameStop their pumps have very little to do with short squeezes because these stocks were not being shorted anywhere near as much as GameStop was. It was only 2006 when I worked at a company making ASIC-based network security products and had a coworker whose actual description of the threat profile was "kids who live in their parents basements, need to see the sun more". Obviously there are tons of shenanigans, but otherwise, it's an essential role. in democratic countries, maybe unless a certain political figure The Limitation isn’t really the bots but Reddit’s garbage api. I don't think what is essentially financial de-regulation is a movement that's going to pick up steam some time soon. Thousands of such online communities, and you only throw out the ones that threaten your hedge fund? And this isn't an isolated comment, there are hundreds of comments like it in the I can easily imagine a law getting passed that in order to invest in a brokerage account where you have autonomy over the investments requires you to be an accredited investor, and it will be worded so that it is for the benefit of the people who were taken for a ride on massive "pump-and-dump" schemes that originated on misinformation platforms and social media, regardless of whether they were truly pump-and-dump or just tom-fuckery against "big hedge". Never thought its gonna get to a point where i have to explain individual liberty in the west. The large hedge funds will be fine, we might see a few bailouts, and life will go on. Is it more nuanced than that? Moderated content because you are responsible for stuff that's being posted? All they had to do was set a higher minimum karma requirement to comment. Terms of service are not above criticism, did not say it and did not imply it. This may also motivate the return to truly open internet ideals of the past. Suddenly this argument appears less apt. I certainly did not intend any FUD spreading. But being intolerant and demanding tolerance is a shitty move as well. Discover the best NSFW subreddits on Reddit. I'm 100% with you. You would also be censoring people if you ran an upscale restaurant with a dress code and standards of behavior, or if you didn't let them post ads on the walls. Not to be that guy, but I grew up in Austria inbetween old Nazis and young Neo-Nazis. Challenging. I believe we're going to see fragmentation in platforms rather than open standards. This is trickier than it might sound, because you are in some sense restricting the rights and capabilities of some subset of the shares. 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Anyone can set up a server. I am convinced that to speak freely as a collective, sometimes we must stop certain individuals from abusing their freedom of speech within our forums. It's not illegal. There is a financial incentive! As if an IRC channel wouldn't be shut down if it threatened oligopoly profits... All of the big social media networks are corporate property. Turns out that Discord doesn't like people using the terms "Retard" and "Autist" in a disparaging way. But deciding what unappetizing ideas are allowed and are not allowed to be discussed is a bad idea, I thought we learned that lesson in the last century. This is the first time netizens capitalize on hedge fund short favorites and it has been surprisingly easy to cause an absolute catastrophy in the order of billion losses for them. Discord did a thing and people don't like the thing Discord did. It's not illegal. It is not a public space. No, almost all personal trading is buying stocks. But how can you regulate that people get together and buy stock? Arguably, because we don't put people into office who are able and/or willing to require people to act responsibly. I’m not sure I buy it, and I’m not sure there is a fundamental difference between dinner club (as Matt Levine wrote) where hedge fund managers talk about their favorite stock picks and people on an open forum openly talking about companies that they think should be purchased or sold. I heard Melvin Capital may even have gone bankrupt? > If the new regs enshrine the current reality in law then maybe there'll be more hope for fundamental reform. Also quite likely WSB money wasnt enough and it's only because other hedge funds jumped in that we got here. In two clicks I found their community guidelines on their website: "Do not organize, promote, or coordinate servers around hate speech. The shares don't have your name on it. >Very few people care about what you are talking about. Discord is not a public utility. 90k+ commetns on that thread, and in that subreddit. The discourse about whether and how much we should tolerate the intolerant is old and has be well discussed by post WWII philosophy. If they self hosted in Alabama, I'm sure they would have been fine. Let's start with the basics. Fewer than 30. No, the funds will take a haircut and move on, they likely already have. > Let's wait six months. If the community looks like it's full of people doing gray-illegal things, then normal people (and advertisers) will generally shy away... and lawsuits will not be far behind. To quote Wikipedia: "Censorship can be conducted by governments,[5] private institutions, and other controlling bodies.". I sincerely thought he would just be someone who wasn't "with it"... but no, he actually has a clear understanding of how the promises that the internet didn't materialize in the 90s, and still haven't today. I think much of it is about having some fun and having a sense of community. Walker.” “Ah, I believe I met your father the other day at the Sheriff’s office. According to the Washington Post, there were nearly 6.3 million members of the finance subreddit /r/wallstreetbets forum on Reddit as of Friday. If you think the lawmakers and regulators will throw their hands up and say geez, it's technically legal, carry on, you're sorely mistaken. This is not true. Except duh, yes they do and as for experts saying otherwise, try WPATH’s own guidelines and studies. I'm of the belief that to protect your free society you protect it's virtue, even when people take advantage of it. Just clarifying this point. If you consider the total outstanding shares of GME, then only 99% or so of the company was shorted. by limiting financial opportunity for the devaluing company to the point that it inhibits normal every day business, creating a feedback loop that the company may be unable to recover from. I’m pointing out a ridiculous application of what you’ve pointed out, private business, or an individual stoping you from speaking while technically censorship, happens all the time and no one raises an eyebrow. This is not what happened here. Note that I have made no ethical considerations for Melvin; they knew what game they were playing and are not victims here IMO. > (The have already assembled on /r/wallstreetbetsnew). And banning name calling in your private forum to promote substantiative discussion, that's probably a good idea. Yes, it is, it's an abusive short squeeze, which is market manipulation. Behind the scenes, it is very different; anyone can easily run a server, and all these servers are federated (think email), and connected to the same universe, called the Fediverse. Trading (or posting) to cause impact and affect other positions you have is manipulation too. I was simply replaying to your statement that: "Discord reacted to how the platform they had already given was being used.". Your coffee shop is not relevant on the global scale. Do you want a change in this society? But perhaps if you didn't explicitly stand on the corner shouting "I'm going to rob a bank and all you guys should also rob banks", the authorities wouldn't be on to you. Nor is it a violation of free speech. To do in blatantly in the open is basically rubbing it in the regulators face and giving them no choice but to crack down. A good red flag, though. It’s obvious what they’re doing. That includes PnL stuff but equally applies to...well, all the other stuff. What exactly would be illegal if I was on the right side of a short squeeze on purpose? It's not impossible to have multiple instance of the same bot running in parallel, but there are too many race condition and it became too much to handle. Nor is it a violation of free speech. Then they raise money, get a great board, hire industry experts, and go... whatever.. compete with Steam, turn the physical stores into e-sports venues, pivot to game development, whatever. And also, counterproductive. For once, you know nothing about me and second, you are attacking a strawman. This demographic is already served in numerous places, and everyone else is rather glad to see these people chased off of platforms they use for sharing videos of dancing and food. How would one go about educating people? That isn’t what censorship is. Moderation is when pornography is banned from r/programming. I know, hedge funds bad, and they do this crap all the time. But then the onus is on Reddit to slacken these restrictions; WSB threads get 100K responses, which is the amount of engagement many social media can only dream of. You have to find a stock that's overshorted (>100% of shares here) irresponsibly (if they used e.g puts they'd be fine), buy a lot and hold it long enough. Are Terms of Service above criticism now? > A more apt comparison would be a group in a corner having a conversation at a rock concert. Independent internet, exactly what is that? 'Pumping and dumping stocks' is not value creating it's actually quite destructive. Nah, they'll just go on 4chan like everything else being censored. It’s quite restricted so you need to do all sorts of hacky stuff to get live info out of it. Guess what the SEC has done about this blatant naked short selling. You and your friends go in to talk about stuff. Hedge funds have shorted more of the stock than exists. There's a big difference between some kids screaming in your coffee shop and a community on a website supposedly dedicated to free discussion. I think it's optimistic that we'll see that with many of the huge, well-established platforms like Facebook or Twitter. You don't even need a majority to care. Even if that's not strictly collusion, it sounds — to my admittedly untrained ear — like a position that the system should want to avoid. See that's the thing here - people have dumbed down democracy to voting. Feds or regulatory body will crack down, we'll just accept another banned community that is "a threat to our democracy" and we'll move on. starts spreading obvious misinformation with the goal of From Dog-sitters to Family and Business. Forget the selective enforcement aspect and the lawyering over the definition of "censorship" - can anything a private company does with its private property ever be criticized? But it's not really provable in the case of WSB so they're safe. But with big platforms like Facebook, it's not easy to opt out from them. It's just... so easy. Adults.. DDLG has a lot of different shades from the most hardcore to the most vanilla. Unfortunately, there is no more new math here. What I am opposed to is businesses that market themselves as places to freely discuss, wait til they have market control, then change their terms and kick people out based on tenuous accusations, in this case for the apparent reason of protecting hedge funds from the market. And nothing gets solved; no minds are changed. No, very few people care about the ethical implications of what OP 's talking about. until that happens, we want free speech". Really? Can you then explain how what you wrote applies to what I wrote? Pessimism and apathy are the primary things holding decent Americans in thrall to the racist war state called USA. The best and most "free" discussions I experienced were all happening in a space where everybody was after finding some sort of insight. The difference is retail is going to win AND there's no backroom deal to be made to stop the bleeding. I am not saying it can't be done or even that it's undesirable; just that the mechanics of this are nontrivial to enforce. Do you refute my claim that it's simple to discover and execute? And I doubt share price is the only consideration made by lenders, if their share P/E ratio was very low (which shorting would cause) then this would also affect their lending opportunities positively. Desert boots are a type of chukka introduced by Clarks in 1950 that became popular with army officers, so it’s safe to say these are the best desert boots you can buy. Banning for the wrong opinion is of course censorship. But in this case, it’s a perfect analogue, that illustrates why decrying censorship here is odd. If we chose our politicians more carefully, we'd see better results. The WSB are complaining that Reddit didn't give them the mod tools they need. Please refrain from spamming the sub with links to your discord. I'm sorry I don't understand, are you arguing on behalf or against Discord who called the wsb crowd a bunch of white supremacist Nazis? Online courses are widely regarded as being much worse than a college education. Discord has made no attempt to stop anyone saying anything, they're just chosen not to lend these people their megaphone. I think all of these wishes of a true public space are usually colored by the (mis? We wrote software to do most of the moderation for us but that software isn't allowed to read the Reddit new feed fast enough and submit responses, and the admins haven't given us special access despite asking for it. Thanks for your input. There has been a surge of new accounts spamming the sub and trying to manipulate people into selling. You know what else the market allocates capital to? It doesn't help that a lot of things financial mechanics are esoteric and not commonly known, or that most people don't know the difference between hedge funds, banks, market makers and brokers. Telling people what is inappropriate to do with their money is a great way to get them to do it more. In US, financial regulations are some of the most vaguely defined of laws, in the rest of the world, they are usually are the most verbose, and formal in definition. They got to be the largest by providing a space for everyone. Reddit is the most adult-friendly social network out there, so let ThePornDude be your guide and check out … Because they're putting in a good faith effort to moderate, it's just "hard". By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. As for GME, just put on your diamond-grade hands for once and hold until Friday's squeeze. The infamous VW short squeeze was also caused by significantly less short interest: Very true, but the less shorted or at least the bigger the difference between available shares and the short position the harder it is. I really hope we can subponea some documents and find out if this is coming from corruption or cosmic coincedence. I think the most sensible and straightforward thing is further regulation of hedge funds and large financial institutions. Calling someone a "retard" or "autist" is considered by Discord to be mocking people with disabilities. comparing retail investors who have voting power and economic influence over public markets to 'a bunch of teenagers' is a gross oversimplification. Unlike GameStop their pumps have very little to do with short squeezes because these stocks were not being shorted anywhere near as much as GameStop was. It was only 2006 when I worked at a company making ASIC-based network security products and had a coworker whose actual description of the threat profile was "kids who live in their parents basements, need to see the sun more". Obviously there are tons of shenanigans, but otherwise, it's an essential role. in democratic countries, maybe unless a certain political figure The Limitation isn’t really the bots but Reddit’s garbage api. I don't think what is essentially financial de-regulation is a movement that's going to pick up steam some time soon. Thousands of such online communities, and you only throw out the ones that threaten your hedge fund? And this isn't an isolated comment, there are hundreds of comments like it in the I can easily imagine a law getting passed that in order to invest in a brokerage account where you have autonomy over the investments requires you to be an accredited investor, and it will be worded so that it is for the benefit of the people who were taken for a ride on massive "pump-and-dump" schemes that originated on misinformation platforms and social media, regardless of whether they were truly pump-and-dump or just tom-fuckery against "big hedge". Never thought its gonna get to a point where i have to explain individual liberty in the west. The large hedge funds will be fine, we might see a few bailouts, and life will go on. Is it more nuanced than that? Moderated content because you are responsible for stuff that's being posted? All they had to do was set a higher minimum karma requirement to comment. Terms of service are not above criticism, did not say it and did not imply it. This may also motivate the return to truly open internet ideals of the past. Suddenly this argument appears less apt. I certainly did not intend any FUD spreading. But being intolerant and demanding tolerance is a shitty move as well. Discover the best NSFW subreddits on Reddit. I'm 100% with you. You would also be censoring people if you ran an upscale restaurant with a dress code and standards of behavior, or if you didn't let them post ads on the walls. Not to be that guy, but I grew up in Austria inbetween old Nazis and young Neo-Nazis. Challenging. I believe we're going to see fragmentation in platforms rather than open standards. This is trickier than it might sound, because you are in some sense restricting the rights and capabilities of some subset of the shares. Someone buys a stock from a short seller and sells it short themselves. 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